The world according to UK arch-Zionist David Collier

Gilad Atzmon writes:

On 12 April I had a Twitter exchange with David Collier, the ardent Zionist activist who “reported” to the British media about the “secret” (actually, simply private) pro-Palestinian FaceBook groups that included Jeremy Corbyn along with such unsavoury characters as Paul Eisen, yours truly and others.

I have communicated with Collier in the past. I believe in open channels despite the abuse which Collier and his ilk like to hurl at me.

I asked Collier to explain to me the recent findings by the Kantor Institute. Apparently, “anti-Semitic violent incidents have dropped worldwide by 9 per cent in the last year and by almost 50 per cent compared to the 2006-14 average”. Yet the report found that Jews are somehow more fearful than ever. I was curious about these findings. In my article on the Kantor report I asked whether women would feel more or less vulnerable if we learned that rape incidents dropped by 10 per cent. Would Blacks react negatively to a study revealing that anti-black violence dropped by 10 per cent? And what about Muslims: wouldn’t they welcome a drop of 50 per cent in Islamophobic violence?  

I presented the same questions to Collier. Why are Jews different, I wondered. Why aren’t they cheered up by the reduction in violence against them? It took a while and a bit of zigzagging for Collier to address the question. But eventually Collier was kind enough to lead me through the corridors of Jewish trauma.

According to Collier, the relationship between Jews and goyim[gentiles] resembles  domestic violence. “The violent husband is either beating his wife or she is delusional because today his anger hasn’t made him raise his fists.”

David Collier tweet

David Collier tweet

I wasn’t sure that I understood Collier correctly, so I continued with his metaphor. “Let’s stick to statistics Mr Collier: The husband actually stopped beating his wife, yet she is becoming more fearful. This won’t happen unless the wife is begging to be abused. Normal people would actually expect to see a second honeymoon…”

Collier’s reply left little room for the imagination. “You’re crazy if you say its delusion without the physical abuse. He (the husband) could be drinking again, back in the gang, the verbal abuse has returned and his temper is back. I think most normal people would trust the wife to recognise the signs. They’d tell her to run before she is hit.”

David Collier tweet 2

David Collier tweet 2

I told Collier that I thought his metaphor revealed an embarrassing worldview. The goyis a reckless, temperamental  “drunken man”. The Jew is a hopeless “beaten wife”. This view fails to respect either the Jew or the gentile.

But while Collier’s apparent worldview is troublesome, it is consistent with the Kantor findings and with the core Zionist philosophy. One explanation for the surge in Jewish fearfulness despite the drop in anti-Semitic violence might be that many Jews actually agree with Collier’s metaphor. They may not trust the goyim. This mode of thinking echoes Herzl’s Zionism. Zionism was born at the peak of a successful wave of Jewish assimilation. Max Nordau’saddress at the First Zionist Congress in Basel reflected the same sentiment: the goyim’stolerance towards Jews is a misleading notion – it is there to support gentile self-perception. 

Althoughconsistent with core Zionism, Collier’s view doesn’t leave much prospect for hope for Jew-goyharmony. Like the tormented and battered wife, the Jew is pushed into the corner awaiting the inevitable outburst of aggression to hit again. Within such a bleak worldview, the goy(drunken husband) is beyond redemption and the Jew is a hopeless victim who can’t do much to save the situation. Jews who subscribe to this dark vision of realty are left with no other option but make Aliyah– immigrate to Israel. Yet if the Jew-goyrelationship is a dead end, why did Collier waste his time trying to “fix” the British Labour Party? He would be better off investing his energy in saving the Israeli Labour Party.

I made it clear to Collier that I intended to publish his tweets. He probably realised that such an expose could be slightly problematic. He attempted to backtrack. He wrote to me:

I didn’t compare them, Gilad. I exposed your misunderstanding of how victims of any abuse or discrimination can be intimidated without violence. You do yourself no favours when you misrepresent me in this fashion. It shows how dishonestly you operate. Athens? You? Lol.

David Collier tweet 3

David Collier tweet 3

I wonder whether Collier, who claims to be an expert in “abuse and discrimination” grasps that domestic violence and discrimination are differentphenomena. I wonder if Collier is so knowledgeable about abuse and discrimination, why did he show so little concern, let alone empathy or compassion, for our opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn. I guess that people who see themselves as victims fail to take responsibility for their own actions.

By the time I went to bed, Collier was abusive once again.  

You haven’t got the ethical grounding, nor the intelligence to represent me accurately, Gilad. Beyond a greatly overstated opinion of yourself, you have nothing.

David Collier tweet 4

David Collier tweet 4

I tried to assure him that I would represent him accurately. My task is to bring Jewishness to light and vice-versa. The search for truth and truthfulness is what drives me forward. 

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[WATCH] Family Accuses Collier County Deputies of Beating Man to Death

COLLIER COUNTY, Fla. -A Chokoloskee family is accusing Collier County Sheriff Deputies of beating a man to death after he died in their custody.

Devan Rewis, 31, was arrested on Sept. 15 after being pulled over for breaking curfew following Hurricane Irma.

The sheriff’s office said during the traffic stop, Rewis attempted to run from deputies and attacked officers as they tried to handcuff him.

Officers used a stun gun and needed to control Rewis forcefully.

“There’s no reason to Taser and beat and Taser and beat and pepper spray someone like that and refuse their call for help,” Rewis’ aunt, Martha Daniels, said.

The day after his arrest, Rewis was found unresponsive in his cell.

Deputies are now waiting for a toxicology report to determine the cause of death.

This incident wasn’t Rewis’ first run-in with the Collier County Sheriff’s Office. He faced multiple drug arrests in the past. The toxicology report will indicate if drugs had anything to do with his death.

Rewis’ family believes that drugs had nothing to do with his death and that deputies targeted him due to his past.

The deputy that arrested Rewis has been disciplined the the sheriff’s office before, causing concern for the family.

Rewis’ family hopes the sheriff’s office investigates the case with this in mind.

The sheriff’s office is waiting on the full autopsy report which will include a toxicology report. There is an internal investigation underway at the sheriff’s office. No deputies involved in the case are on leave.

Source: WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida

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Polygamous Montana trio applies for wedding license

Nathan Collier is shown in the profile photo from his Facebook page.© Via Facebook at
Nathan Collier is shown in the profile photo from his Facebook page.

HELENA, Mont. — A Montana man said Wednesday that he was inspired by last week’s U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage to apply for a marriage license so that he can legally wed his second wife.

Nathan Collier and his wives Victoria and Christine applied at the Yellowstone County Courthouse in Billings on Tuesday in an attempt to legitimize their polygamous marriage. Montana, like all 50 states, outlaws bigamy — holding multiple marriage licenses — but Collier said he plans to sue if the application is denied.

“It’s about marriage equality,” Collier told The Associated Press Wednesday. “You can’t have this without polygamy.”

County clerk officials initially denied Collier’s application, then said they would consult with the county attorney’s office before giving him a final answer, Collier said.

Yellowstone County chief civil litigator Kevin Gillen said he is reviewing Montana’s bigamy laws and expected to send a formal response to Collier by next week.

“I think he deserves an answer,” Gillen said, but added his review is finding that “the law simply doesn’t provide for that yet.”

The Supreme Court’s ruling on Friday made gay marriages legal nationwide. Chief Justice John Roberts said in his dissent that people in polygamous relationships could make the same legal argument that not having the opportunity to marry disrespects and subordinates them.

Collier, 46, said that dissent inspired him. He owns a refrigeration business in Billings and married Victoria, 40, in 2000. He and his second wife, Christine, had a religious wedding ceremony in 2007 but did not sign a marriage license to avoid bigamy charges, he said.

Collier said he is a former Mormon who was excommunicated for polygamy and now belongs to no religious organization. He said he and his wives hid their relationship for years, but became tired of hiding and went public by appearing on the reality cable television show “Sister Wives.”

The three have seven children of their own and from previous relationships.

“My second wife Christine, who I’m not legally married to, she’s put up with my crap for a lot of years. She deserves legitimacy,” he said.

Collier said he sent an email asking the ACLU of Montana to represent him in a possible lawsuit. ACLU legal director Jim Taylor said he has not seen the request.

Taylor said he has no opinion on Collier’s claims, though the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage “is about something very different.”

Anne Wilde, a co-founder of the polygamy advocacy organization Principle Voices located in Utah, said Collier’s application is the first she’s heard of in the nation, and that most polygamous families in Utah are not seeking the right to have multiple marriage licenses.

“Ninety percent or more of the fundamentalist Mormons don’t want it legalized, they want it decriminalized,” Wilde said.

A federal judge struck down parts of Utah’s anti-polygamy law two years ago, saying the law violated religious freedom by prohibiting cohabitation. Bigamy is still illegal.

The state has appealed the ruling, and the case is pending in the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Wilde said most polygamous families are satisfied with the judge’s ruling and believe taking it further to include multiple marriage licenses would bring them under the unwanted jurisdiction of the government.

But she said the Supreme Court’s decision on gay marriage should strengthen their chance of winning the appeal.

“We hope the Supreme Court decision will show the direction the nation is going,” she said. “It’s more liberal, it’s more understanding about people forming the families the way they want.”

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