November 6, 2017
5:01:32 PM Eastern
KATY TUR: Tonight we’re once again following the developments of a mass shooting. We’ve gotten to the point it isn’t just that gun violence and mass shootings are a sad and predictable reality in this country, but where the political response to them is just as sad and just as predictable. When these things happen, pretty much all Republicans say: “Now is not the time to talk gun laws.” Democrats say, “Now is the exact time to talk gun laws.” The end result — nothing happens. And today, while the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas are mourning lost loved ones and praying for the wounded, both sides stuck to their usual scripts.
The Republican deflection once again on full display including from the White House.
TUR: Less than a week ago, eight people were killed in New York. It only took few hours then for the President to immediately call for policy changes. Of course, that was called a terrorist attack, and was caused by an Uzbek immigrant who came to the U.S. on a Visa.
TUR: Joining me now, is Texas Democratic Congressman Henry Cuellar, who represents the area of Texas where this shooting occurred.
TUR: You yourself are a big guns rights advocate. You get money from the NRA right after the Vegas shooting. You went on Fox to say gun regulations wouldn’t stop that sort of thing from happening. Now that it’s happened in your backyard, Congressman Cuellar, do you feel differently than you did a month ago?
HENRY CUELLAR: Well again, if somebody wants to kill somebody, Katy, they’re going to find a way. I mean, look what happened in New York. They used of a vehicle, used a truck. We’ve seen that in other parts of Europe. We saw 9/11 it was an airplane. We’ve seen people kill people with knives and even with their bare hands. So again, if somebody wants to kill somebody, they’re going to find a way to do it.
TUR [Interrupting Cuellar]: You know, we live in the only place in the entire world, Congressman, where these sort of shootings happen. The only place in the entire world. Yeah, you’re right. People will kill people if they want to kill people, but this is a 26-year-old person who walked into a church and killed victims as young as 18 months, babies, with a semiautomatic rifle, an AR-15. The same rifle we’ve seen used over and over again in mass shootings. Do you think it’s acceptable just to say that you know, someone wants to kill someone, they’re going to kill someone?
CUELLAR: Well, I mean, again, do you want to ban trucks, because a truck was used? Do you want to ban an airplane –
TUR [Interrupting Cuellar again]: I don’t really think we’re equivocating on this—
CUELLAR: Let me just finish. You asked me a question. I let you ask the question. Let me answer the question, if you can. So do you want to ban trucks because they used a truck in New York? Do you want to ban airplanes because a terrorist used it in 9/11? Again, you know, there were some laws in place. We’re going to find out why he was able to get the guns under the circumstances that you mentioned at the very beginning.
TUR: One other question. You’re one of the few who came out against, came out for a bill that became law earlier in the year that would have made it harder for people with mental illnesses to buy a gun. Do you have any second thoughts on that?
CUELLAR: No. Again, it’s who declares somebody to be mentally ill. Is it a judge or is it a bureaucrat? So — there is an issue. If you look at that vote. There was a little bit more behind it than just putting it just the way you said it. It’s who declares somebody to be mentally ill.
TUR: Do you think that there should be any limits at all to the Second Amendment?
CUELLAR: Any what again?
TUR: Any limits at all to the second amendment? You can’t scream “Fire” in a crowded theater, that’s a limit on the First Amendment. Should there be limits at all to the Second Amendment?
CUELLAR: I think there are limits already. I think–
TUR [Interrupting Cuellar a third time]: What are they?
CUELLAR: Laws that — well, I mean, not everybody can get a gun. I mean, there is some, some background. There is –
TUR [Interrupting Cuellar for the fourth time]: That’s not consistent around the entire country.
CUELLAR: Well, again, let me answer your question again. You asked me, there are some limits. There are some limits right now to the Second Amendment. Do I believe in the Second Amendment? Yes. Do I believe in the first amendment? Yes. Until we make some changes to the constitution, those are some of the basic constitutional rights that we have.
TUR: But I was hoping to find out whether or not you think there should be any limits. I presume your answer is, no?
CUELLAR: No. I just told you. There are some limits under the law right now.
TUR: Congressman Cuellar, thank you for your time …